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* Cassie ponders about where to fit a / into DS.* My favorite pairing
after Harry/Draco (which I really can't make work) is Remus/Sirius,
and Sirius needs to marry Narcissa so H&D can stay related, and
anyway, Remus has been turned, possibly permanently, into a big wolf.
That leaves Ron, I guess, available for.....um.....well, we'll see.
  • grins* The Ron/Draco knife-throwing scene I believe started out as a
response to the Teenage Witches who asked for a scene with Ron and
Draco where Draco starts taking off his clothes. They tend to ask for
peculiar things, but then they are peculiar people. ;)[5]

Eliza Diawna Snape responded to this. Eliza Diawna Snape was a well known slash hating Harry Potter fan and was a popular writer. She was also a fan of Cassandra Claire. She expressed some concern over Cassandra Claire's e-mail as she wanted Cassandra Claire not to go the slashy route and claimed she would be offended by this. [6] Heidi would eventually respond to this note. [7][8]

  • During January 2001, fan of Cassandra Claire wrote an unauthorized sequel to Cassandra Claire and Eliza Diawna Snape's stories. Neither Cassandra Claire, nor Eliza Diawna Snape were particularly pleased that a fan had done this. Various parties wanted the stories reported to FanFiction.Net so that they would be removed. As these stories were derivative, fan fic of fan fiction, and were not plagiarism, that seemed a bit tricky to do. Heidi stepped in to offer her legal advice on the situation on a post to HP_Fanfiction dated January 3, 2001. [9] Heidi starts off the post acknowledging that fan fiction is a violation of copyright and trademark because of its derivative nature. In regards to the issue of people writing fan fiction based on fan fiction, it might "sound weirdly hypocritical" [10] but that Cassandra Claire could conceivably go after the fan fiction author for violating Cassandra Claire's "common law trademark use of her name, the same way someone who went around calling himself STEVEN KlNG would be infringing on the horror writer's mark." [11] Heidi wanted to see if Xing Li might be compelled to remove the story though she thought he would not do anything about the name issue.
  • On March 19, 2001, Rhysenn was busy plugging her new mailing list on such mailing lists as FFN-Slashers-Unite and hpslash. [12][13] Cassandra Claire was similarly plugging the list on mailing lists like HP_FanFiction. [14] It is also worth noting that Cassandra Claire's work, according to her plug post, definitely had slashy subtext by this time.
  • On May 9, 2001, the earliest reference to Schnoogle.Com appears on HP_FanFiction in a post by Ebony. It appeared in Ebony's signature file. [15] The context of the sig is such that it is not a fan fiction archive being linked there. It is a button site. Schnoogle is not yet that fan fiction archive and it is not being indicated that it will become that archive.
  • On June 8, 2001, Heidi made a post on the hpslash list which was perceived as an attempt to get slashers to join another mailing list to defend Cassandra Claire's slash writing. [16] The text of this e-mail is:
re: OT: COMPLETLEY OUTRAGED!!!
Punker wrote about Eliza's fanfic site:
I am only posting this because all these things are on a public
message board - (first, a note - Eliza is 14ish, and I don't even
think she's online much these days because she's dealing with final
exams, but...still....)
Eliza has never made any secret that she is an anti-slash person -
back around New Year's there was a long discussion on HP_Fanfiction
about slash - people like Al, Rhysenn, Cassie, Minx and others chimed
in on this issue, and Eliza eventually posted in response to this
post from cassie:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP_FanFiction/message/570
  • Cassie ponders about where to fit a / into DS.* My favorite pairing
after Harry/Draco (which I really can't make work) is Remus/Sirius,
and Sirius needs to marry Narcissa so H&D can stay related, and
anyway, Remus has been turned, possibly permanently, into a big wolf.
That leaves Ron, I guess, available for.....um.....well, we'll see.
  • grins* The Ron/Draco knife-throwing scene I believe started out as a
response to the Teenage Witches who asked for a scene with Ron and
Draco where Draco starts taking off his clothes. They tend to ask for
peculiar things, but then they are peculiar people. ;) (she also
mentions Lucius-redemption in that post - it's an interesting little
bit of history!)
Eliza's response follows:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP_FanFiction/message/576
From: "Eliza Diawna Snape"
Date: Sat Dec 30, 2000 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [HP_FanFiction] Re: Draco sightings, Ron/Draco and
Lucius M.
>*Cassie ponders about where to fit a / into DS.
Oh, please, Cassandra, don't do it. Trust me on this; you may think slash is
perfectly accepted my most people, but, call me close-minded, I don't really
care, I believe it's wrong. I'm not going to start preaching at you, and so
far during this entire discussion I've stayed quiet about this, but if you
add a slash, I'm going to stop reading DS, and take the story off my site.
That's not a threat... I'm not trying to scare you into not thinking about
it. Don't get me wrong, you can write what you like... but, even when the
story is good, I have a very hard time getting myself to put it up. Thats
one of the reasons you will NEVER find PoU on my site, not because I think
its not a good story, but because of the ratings. Basically, if you add
slash, you're going to offend a lot of people, including me.
-Eliza, who is wondering how many people are going to start yelling at her
for this.
You can read a lot more on the thread by joining at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP_FanFiction/ if you want a little
historical perspective on it. Believe me, flaming Eliza will get you
nowhere. She thinks what she thinks - and at the moment, she's not
changing it. Grr. However, DS is still up there, despite, well,
hintiness in some of the more recent chapters of a ben/gareth thing.
Oh well!
The view at the time, on the hpslash (mailing list) mailing list, was that Heidi was trying to get people to rally to Cassandra Claire's defense and create a flame war between the slash and het contingents.
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